Budd wheel offset?s

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Budd wheel offset?s

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Ive been trying to figure out what the offset (modern day definition of distance between mounting surface and centerline of rim) of the later 1931 AA dual wheels was. Searching over the forum I've found 3 inches, 4 inches, and 7.5 inches. None off those measurements are making any sense to me.

Am I measuring wrong, did they use a different definition for offset back in the day?

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Re: Budd wheel offset?s

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i think some people may be confusing Offset with backspacing...

id measure and give my best guess but i have no rims of that style to measure...

im just curious but why the question? if you find something modern that fits lemme know haha i need 2 bare rims or anything to roll a chassis with.
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I'm trying to go to a modern front end. I have an F450 solid front axle that is looking like it might be a decent candidate. The lug bolt pattern is different but I'm gonna get moDern wheels From rickson wheel manufacturing. They are 19.5 inch by 6 inch wheels with 5.35 inches of offset, but you can order pretty much any offset you want though. I'm trying to get them as close to the look of the original AA wheels as possible. I have already sold the wheels to a guy here locally (I had a phone mishap and no longer have his info to see how his project is going) and forgot to measure up the offset and back spacing. All I have is some pictures of my original rims with a tape measure, before I even really knew how to measure offset, and they aren't helping at all.

Scott
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I may be able to get you some measurements, but it will probably take a couple days.

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Reds34 wrote:I may be able to get you some measurements, but it will probably take a couple days.

Red
I just brought home a 1930 truck with 6 wheels, I'll check the dates and if any are late I will measure them up for you.
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Thanks guys,

The axle I have right now is 74" WMS to WMS.

Before I dismantled my original front end I put it at 63.5-64" WMS to WMS. I think i might have to take out a few inches from the new axle.
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spectria wrote:I just brought home a 1930 truck with 6 wheels, I'll check the dates and if any are late I will measure them up for you.
there's dates on the wheels?
Rumored to be an Early '30 AA...

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pyrodork wrote:
spectria wrote:I just brought home a 1930 truck with 6 wheels, I'll check the dates and if any are late I will measure them up for you.
there's dates on the wheels?
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spectria,
Is the wheel with "CLE WELD" a '29 wheel?
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Neil Wilson wrote:spectria,
Is the wheel with "CLE WELD" a '29 wheel?
Neil,
Do you mean as opposed to a 5 slot?
I got these off the forum a few years ago. I searched and searched just now and couldn't find the thread.
They are 6 slot
I think they are 10-29 as stamped but who knows?
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neat! is it on the raised face side or the sunken face side?



let's see if my diagram is clearer than my explanation...

(raised face)
_/ \_
(sunken face)
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i know what you mean. i gotta admit those must be the cleanest looking 29 AA rims i have ever seem...
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pyrodork wrote:neat! is it on the raised face side or the sunken face side?



let's see if my diagram is clearer than my explanation...

(raised face)
_/ \_
(sunken face)
sunken face side on the C-23597 Budd 5 slot wheel. Can't be sure on the spoke or 6 slot.
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Back to the offset?! Those wheels above don't look like they are from a dually though.

Can anyone help me out?

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Or does anyone have the 1931 January service bulletin? I think my answer is in that publication.


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