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Roadster AA
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Model Year: 1928
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Door posts

Post by Roadster AA »

I am putting together my cowl. I will be bolting my door posts to my cowl panels and gas tank.
My question is, What goes between the post and cowl, and between the dash rail and gas tank?
Is it the same as fender welt or is it the anti squeak felt?

Thanks,
pat
flatford39
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Body Type: Express
Model Year: 1928
Location: NE Illinois

Re: Door posts

Post by flatford39 »

That's a pretty good question. Everyone I have taken apart had remains of some kind of fabric between the cowl and the "A" pillar. I have even found newspaper.

I am pretty sure it's not fender welt. Wouldn't mind an answer myself about the anti squeak felt.
Gary ohb
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Model Year: 1931

Re: Door posts

Post by Gary ohb »

I have found what looks like what used to be called friction tape. It's a cloth type tape , sticky on one side (I think) and it looks like it was only on the part across the top of the tank. I think they were original stuff in there - but I could be wrong.
Reds34
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Re: Door posts

Post by Reds34 »

I was under the impression it was fender welt that was used around the gas tank and door posts.

Red
Bob C
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Body Type: Mail truck, Stake tr
Model Year: 1931
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Re: Door posts

Post by Bob C »

Brattons has the anti-squeak http://www.brattons.com/product.asp?P_I ... &PT_ID=all
Roy Naxewicz has the original style welting on page 14 item A-83-3. http://fordscript.com/ford_bolts/catalogs/modelA.pdf
it's smaller than fender welt.
Bob
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Neil Wilson
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Re: Door posts

Post by Neil Wilson »

Not specified, but it sounds like this is about an 82-A closed cab? If yes, then:

There is a welt which runs across the top of the gas tank and down to the bottom of the cowl. I believe it is a smaller diameter core than fender welt. The attached picture shows how the welt terminates at the bottom of the cowl. Note that there is no welt between the gas tank and cowl panels.

The welt was installed prior to painting and is therefore painted body color.

FYI - the welt cord is normally gone on old original cabs making it appear that there was no welt. So, upon taking the cowl/gas tank out, only the tail is left to be seen. I think it was a cardboard tail. All body types with the exposed hinge pillar had the welt (i.e. most 1928, 1929, and commercial 1930's prior to August)
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spdway1

Re: Door posts

Post by spdway1 »

Found this on the above mentioned post:

A-83-3 Gas tank welting. Same materials as our fender welting except 3/16” diameter. Since its made from
original pyroxilyn material, it accepts paint as the original. $ 14.95/strip

Thank you Bob.
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BrianT
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Model Year: 1929
Location: San Diego, California

Re: Door posts

Post by BrianT »

Snyders show it as A-3405-A 1/8 for tank to cowl, I am sure they all have it.
njcar757
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Body Type: closed cab
Model Year: 1929

Re: Door posts

Post by njcar757 »

I couldnt find A-3405-A 1/8 but I did find A-3405-CW that might work
nick c
spdway1

Re: Door posts

Post by spdway1 »

Correct me if I am wrong, but That (A-3405-CW) is a shiny, vinyl type material, paint would never stick to that for any length of time.
Bob C
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Re: Door posts

Post by Bob C »

If you look at my post above Roy Nacewicz has the original style that you can paint.
This is from his site
________________________________________________________________________
FENDER WELTING
-our own reproduction of original Ford Pyroxylin cloth
covered, paper twine-filled fender welt
ing. This is machine sewn, in house,
utilizing original materials. The “Box grain” generated on the pyroxilyn cloth is
unique to our product. All other welting on the market is produced from extruded
vinyl and therefore the “box” pattern is not achievable. Our material is produced
on one of the original tools used by one of Ford’s primary suppliers. Likewise, the
twisted paper core is still produced for us by an original Ford supplier

Bob
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