29 rear spring mount

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by rsierk » November 2nd, 2017, 10:04 pm

Okay, Chris, what do you think the heat treat spec is?

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by Chris Haynes » November 2nd, 2017, 10:40 pm

rsierk wrote:
November 2nd, 2017, 10:04 pm
Okay, Chris, what do you think the heat treat spec is?
I don't do heat treating so I wouldn't know.

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by s147881 » November 3rd, 2017, 4:04 am

I hope not but I am no expert - I did wrap the perch with a weld cool wrap and it should have kept it at less than 200 degrees. Not sure if anealing the mount and rivets will affect anything.

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by KimVanOrder » November 3rd, 2017, 4:04 pm

bobmay1 wrote:
November 2nd, 2017, 5:17 pm
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Got it welded and cleaned up - it came out good


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Came out Good!!!!! that looks perfect!!! Now think about just how much rotation actually happens on that shaft. Maybe 2 deg. ? Just wiggles back and forth.. Again, Looks Great!!
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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by s147881 » November 3rd, 2017, 7:16 pm

Not sure what you mean - rotation?

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by Stakebed » November 4th, 2017, 12:15 am

he means the spring pack just barely pivots - amazing how much that small pivoting can wear that shaft out.

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by s147881 » November 4th, 2017, 4:18 am

Ok - I ca feel a small amount of wear on the bottom of pivot on the inner 1/3 but not to bad. I ordered new bushings and hope that they will be big enough to tighten them up. With good roads and only 2000 miles a year unloaded should last my lifetime.

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by KimVanOrder » November 4th, 2017, 4:14 pm

s147881 wrote:
November 4th, 2017, 4:18 am
Ok - I ca feel a small amount of wear on the bottom of pivot on the inner 1/3 but not to bad. I ordered new bushings and hope that they will be big enough to tighten them up. With good roads and only 2000 miles a year unloaded should last my lifetime.
You will be fine. Put it together and don't worry about it. When it wares out, ( 75 yrs. from now), then you can weld it up like I did with mine. The shaft was half gone!!
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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by Stakebed » November 4th, 2017, 7:21 pm

keep it greased and it may never wear anymore.

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by bobmay1 » November 5th, 2017, 12:15 pm

Stakebed wrote:keep it greased and it may never wear anymore.
Cleaning up the drivers side spring and I found an issue - the brass bushing was worn all the way through and wore on one side of the top spring holders. Hopefully not a hard part to find?ImageImage


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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by Bob C » November 5th, 2017, 4:51 pm

I'd clean it up get a new bushing and see how big the gap is. Loctite 660 will fill up to .020 gap
or maybe some JB weld.

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by KimVanOrder » November 5th, 2017, 4:54 pm

Or, bore it oversize and have a bushing made to fit. All will be better than new.
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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by Stakebed » November 5th, 2017, 5:28 pm

yea id clean it up and see how much gap there is. The parts shouldnt be hard to find. Ill look when i get a chance - i have 2 of those parts i wont use but unsure how worn they are. Thats about the only way those parts wear out.

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by s147881 » November 6th, 2017, 1:43 am

My friend had an old AA truck yard as yard art and it had same piece I needed. We swapped it out last night and I have one that is perfect. Thanks

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Re: 29 rear spring mount

Post by AAholic » November 7th, 2017, 7:04 pm

Here's a link to 2 videos showing some assembly. The second video shows riveting rear spring perches and frames about 3 minutes into it.
http://theoldmotor.com/?p=167195
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