Tires
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Re: Tires
I bought mine at Universal Tire but all the Model A vendors can probably get them.
Re: Tires
On trucks with dual rear wheels all 6 plus the spare should be 6:00 x 20. On trucks with single wheels the front should be 6:00 x 20 and 6:50 x 20 on the rear. The spare would be another 6:50. The idea is that with a flat on the rear with a loaded truck would need a 6:50; a flat on the front could get by with miss matched tires.
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Re: Tires
I actually got my 6.50-20 tires at summit racing. Free shipping...
- Neil Wilson
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Re: Tires
FYI - The RGJS information regarding tire sizes is shown below. The 6:00x20 tires were indicated as "balloon". The rear single wheel AA's came with 32x6 tires which were indicated as "high-pressure". I have yet to find definitions for "balloon" and "high-pressure". My understanding is that 32x6 defines a tire 6" in height and 32" in diameter. So, 6" + 6" = 12" and 32" - 12" = 20" (the wheel size). Tire manufactures have/will mark tires which will "work" as replacements to original but are not the same as original. Note that Ford did not provide a spare tire (only a spare wheel).Hayslip wrote: ↑October 12th, 2019, 7:10 amOn trucks with dual rear wheels all 6 plus the spare should be 6:00 x 20. On trucks with single wheels the front should be 6:00 x 20 and 6:50 x 20 on the rear. The spare would be another 6:50. The idea is that with a flat on the rear with a loaded truck would need a 6:50; a flat on the front could get by with miss matched tires.
RGJS - "Initially AA trucks used high-pressure type tires with 30x5 on the front and 32x6 on the rear. Balloon 6:00x20 tires became standard on the front in July 1929. In January 1930, 6:00x20 balloon tires were used on the rear axle in dual wheel applications only. Trucks with single rear wheels continued to use the 32x6 high-pressure rear tires. Beginning in July 1931, with the release of factory optional special equipment 18" rear wheels, 32x7 tires were used."
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Re: Tires
Hello Neil, Thank You for your input. However, I am slightly confused. So, I have a grand total of six good wheels. I was planning on running on four tires using 600x20s I was also planning on mounting 600x20s on the other two wheels so that I could cradle one as a spare or bolt on all six and have rear duals. (So unless I have two wheels with 6.50x 20s it’s not period correct?)
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Re: Tires
Someday, a accurate definition will be found for the 32x6 rear tires as used for single wheel AA's. The definition would need to be dated for 1928 through 1931. Until that definition is found, there will be a difference of opinions. Some will say a 32x6 = 6:00x20 and some will say a 32x6 = 6:50x20. My personal opinion is that a 32x6 is a 6:00x20. I don't know the meaning of 32x6 high-pressure tire or a 6:00x20 balloon tire. Documented facts are facts. Opinions are just opinions which are not necessary based on facts.vonheine wrote: ↑October 19th, 2019, 4:18 pmHello Neil, Thank You for your input. However, I am slightly confused. So, I have a grand total of six good wheels. I was planning on running on four tires using 600x20s I was also planning on mounting 600x20s on the other two wheels so that I could cradle one as a spare or bolt on all six and have rear duals. (So unless I have two wheels with 6.50x 20s it’s not period correct?)
Not much help I know.
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Neil, as always thank you for your help. So, what is considered the most authentic 600x20 and 6.50 x20 tire that is sold today? I like the tread pattern on the BF Goodrich 600x20 tires because to me it looks like the tires in the period marketing photographs. However, they are rated slightly less than 1400 pounds as mentioned in the AA truck book by AG McMillan. These tires are currently sold by Universal. The Firestone’s have a tread pattern that look like they belong on a 1979 Chevy Blazer. They don’t look right to me for a AA. Any thoughts on the most authentic looking tires currently available?
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I have not looked at/for tires for many years. So, I am not familiar with what is on the current market. There are photo galleries on the AAFords.com site. Many are Ford archive photos. The tread can be seen in some of these photos. Gallery links are:vonheine wrote: ↑October 19th, 2019, 7:54 pmNeil, as always thank you for your help. So, what is considered the most authentic 600x20 and 6.50 x20 tire that is sold today? I like the tread pattern on the BF Goodrich 600x20 tires because to me it looks like the tires in the period marketing photographs. However, they are rated slightly less than 1400 pounds as mentioned in the AA truck book by AG McMillan. These tires are currently sold by Universal. The Firestone’s have a tread pattern that look like they belong on a 1979 Chevy Blazer. They don’t look right to me for a AA. Any thoughts on the most authentic looking tires currently available?
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The attached show 6.00x20 Firestone tire tread on a 1930 platform AA.
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Re: Tires
Hello Neil & Others,
I have a 1931 Budd Wheel Catalog that has load and inflation pressures for various tire sizes. Commercial vehicles during this period began using "high pressure tires" which rode better than the previous solid rubber ones. As tire construction advanced, ballon tires slowly replaced the high pressure style.
A 30X5 high pressure tire inflated to 65 lbs had a weight capacity of 1325 lbs. A 6.00X20 balloon tire inflated to 40 lbs was rated at 1300 lbs
70 lbs 1450 lbs 45 lbs 1400 lbs
75 lbs 1575 lbs
80 lbs 1700 lbs
A 32X6 high pressure tire inflated to 70 lbs 1700 lbs A 6.50X20 balloon tire inflated to 45 lbs was rated at 1525 lbs
75 lbs 1825 lbs 50 lbs 1650 lbs
80 lbs 1950 lbs
85 lbs 2075 lbs
90 lbs 2200 lbs
If you compare a 30X5 inflated to 70 psi and a 6.00X20 inflated to 45 lbs there is only 50 lbs greater capacity for the high pressure size. When Ford changed to the balloon size tires on the AA's front axle the shocks were then removed because the trucks probably rode better then. (Probably saved them some money too). They continued to use the high pressure size on the rear because they could achieve higher weight capacities just by adding more air to the hgih pressure 32X6 tires. With the introduction of the bevel gear rear and the availability of dual rear wheels, balloon tires could be furnished that woulld increase the weight capacity over what a single high pressure tire could carry and would ride better than them. Keith
I have a 1931 Budd Wheel Catalog that has load and inflation pressures for various tire sizes. Commercial vehicles during this period began using "high pressure tires" which rode better than the previous solid rubber ones. As tire construction advanced, ballon tires slowly replaced the high pressure style.
A 30X5 high pressure tire inflated to 65 lbs had a weight capacity of 1325 lbs. A 6.00X20 balloon tire inflated to 40 lbs was rated at 1300 lbs
70 lbs 1450 lbs 45 lbs 1400 lbs
75 lbs 1575 lbs
80 lbs 1700 lbs
A 32X6 high pressure tire inflated to 70 lbs 1700 lbs A 6.50X20 balloon tire inflated to 45 lbs was rated at 1525 lbs
75 lbs 1825 lbs 50 lbs 1650 lbs
80 lbs 1950 lbs
85 lbs 2075 lbs
90 lbs 2200 lbs
If you compare a 30X5 inflated to 70 psi and a 6.00X20 inflated to 45 lbs there is only 50 lbs greater capacity for the high pressure size. When Ford changed to the balloon size tires on the AA's front axle the shocks were then removed because the trucks probably rode better then. (Probably saved them some money too). They continued to use the high pressure size on the rear because they could achieve higher weight capacities just by adding more air to the hgih pressure 32X6 tires. With the introduction of the bevel gear rear and the availability of dual rear wheels, balloon tires could be furnished that woulld increase the weight capacity over what a single high pressure tire could carry and would ride better than them. Keith
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Re: Tires
Sorry, something happened to the charts I posted, and it probably doesn't make any sense now. Keiith
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Re: Tires
High-pressure tires are compared to "low" pressure tires by doubling the last number and subtracting this from the first number; viz: 32x6 would be a six-inch would tire on a 20" RIM.