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Re: Torque Tube Internal Parts

Post by KimVanOrder » November 3rd, 2019, 3:38 pm

Thrust washer / spacer, on the worm side of the bearing? But not a 1/2"! Were there different 'vintage' parts? Some left over from the Model T. :?
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Re: Torque Tube Internal Parts

Post by KimVanOrder » November 3rd, 2019, 3:40 pm

Opps, I was thinking the wrong end of the tube.. Are there different parts for the different ends??
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Re: Torque Tube Internal Parts

Post by Rumbler » November 3rd, 2019, 4:39 pm

Neil, I remember wondering this same thing when I disassembled my worm drive torque tube. I think the extra clearance actually ended up being between the seal and the bearing sleeve. Remember that "button" impression on the bearing sleeve snaps into the hole in the wall of the torque tube during assembly, so this ends up locating the sleeve in the tube, not the seal. So you might try referencing your measurement from the hole in the tube. Building on this, is there a possibility that the original "AA-4686 Drive Shaft Grease Retainer" was actually a felt seal inside a "can" (similar to the worm gear grease retainer). This could have been thicker than a newer rubber lip seal?

My thoughts :)
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Re: Torque Tube Internal Parts

Post by Rumbler » November 4th, 2019, 6:27 pm

Neil, another thought...could it be that in reverse, the speedometer gear's forward motion is restrained by the u-joint?

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Re: Torque Tube Internal Parts

Post by KimVanOrder » November 6th, 2019, 3:33 pm

Neil Wilson wrote:
November 5th, 2019, 8:53 am
Here is a different way to look at this assemble of parts.

The AA-4686 seal (grease retainer) is installed from the front until it is pushed against the machined ridge in the torque tube.

The AA-4655 sleeve is installed in the torque tube until the sleeve "button" snaps into the torque tube hole. The sleeve acts as a stop for the seal.

The AA-4645-A roller bearing is installed inside of the sleeve. The bearing rests against the seal (so the seal acts as a stop for the bearing).

The AA-17285-x speedometer drive gear is installed. It can rest against the roller bearing.

The AA-17286 retainer is installed into the grove in the torque tube. This acts as a forward stop for the roller bearing and speedometer gear.

However, there is a .56" gap. Consequently, the roller bearing and speedometer gear can move forward .56"

This seems like too much forward movement. What say you?
Neil: I am thinking, dose it really matter??? Maybe .56" of slop is just fine! Is there a functional problem found any where? Ain't broke, don't fix it.. :shock:
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