88-A Platform Bed Questions

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88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » May 17th, 2021, 11:24 pm

Hi,

I have 2 questions on the 88-A platform bed. I am rebuilding mine.

I would really appreciate it if someone with an 88-A could get 2 pictures and measurements.

#1
On the last crossmember (#6) AA-88097-B, does the crossmember rest on the wood side sills (AA-88030 d3) or does is sit above them. If it sits above them, what is the gap distance?

#2
How wide is the space from the end of the the floor board support (right angle metal strip on the inside of cross member #6) and the inside edge of the #6 crossmember ?

Please see the below pictures for a more clear representation of what I am asking.

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by Neil Wilson » May 18th, 2021, 6:45 pm

#1
On the last cross member (#6) AA-88097-B, does the cross member rest on the wood side sills (AA-88030 d3) or does is sit above them. If it sits above them, what is the gap distance?

The sill has sill plates between the sill and each cross member (including the #6 cross member) - see https://aafords.com/open-bodies/platfor ... tails/#fsa

#2
How wide is the space from the end of the the floor board support (right angle metal strip on the inside of cross member #6) and the inside edge of the #6 cross member ?

The support is 1-1/2" (#6 cross member to inside edge). The is the same as the #6 cross member upper flange. The boards fit between the support and top flange. The floor boards have a notch on the top so that they are flush with the top of the top flange.

Please see the below pictures for a more clear representation of what I am asking.

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » May 18th, 2021, 8:44 pm

Thank you Neil!

Just to clarify the sill plates on a 1931 d3 88-A platform.

It looks to me that:

Sill plate AA-88064 (5-7/8" long with the U-bolt hook) was used under cross members 1, 2, 5
Sill plate AA-88066 (4" long rectangular flat plate) was used under cross members 3, 4, 6
Sill plate AA-88062 was used between crossmembers 3 & 4 for the U-bolt

Regards,
Dave

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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by Neil Wilson » May 19th, 2021, 10:07 am

dlevy wrote:
May 18th, 2021, 8:44 pm
Thank you Neil!

Just to clarify the sill plates on a 1931 d3 88-A platform.

It looks to me that:

Sill plate AA-88064 (5-7/8" long with the U-bolt hook) was used under cross members 1, 2, 5
Sill plate AA-88066 (4" long rectangular flat plate) was used under cross members 3, 4, 6
Sill plate AA-88062 was used between crossmembers 3 & 4 for the U-bolt

Regards,
Dave
Yes Dave - note that the plates for cross member 1 were to simply make it backward compatible with earlier installations that used u-bolts there.
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » May 22nd, 2021, 4:38 am

Hi,

Can you tell me what size flat head screws were used to install the sill plates?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by Neil Wilson » May 22nd, 2021, 5:21 am

dlevy wrote:
May 22nd, 2021, 4:38 am
Hi,

Can you tell me what size flat head screws were used to install the sill plates?

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » May 29th, 2021, 6:57 pm

So I have my 88-A platform with all new cross members fit together and perfectly square.

Now just to replace the rest of the bolts with rivets!

Dave
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by Neil Wilson » May 30th, 2021, 7:11 am

dlevy wrote:
May 29th, 2021, 6:57 pm
So I have my 88-A platform with all new cross members fit together and perfectly square.

Now just to replace the rest of the bolts with rivets! Dave
Excellent - looking very good. Do you have an idea what you would charge to build an 88-A for a customer? Or, just an estimate on the time you spent and costs?
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by bud valerius » May 30th, 2021, 10:01 am

i have a pair of the fender braces that I removed from abed that i scraped

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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » June 1st, 2021, 9:19 pm

Hi Neil,

I only made all new cross members 1-6.

The floor side members (AA-88091), Angle supports (AA-88061), the reinforcements and stake pockets on cross member #6 are all original.

It took me a while to get to this point, I would not be able to put a number on the hours.

I don't know if I am ready to build another 88-A, but I could supply any or all of the cross members. They are straight forward for me to make at this point.

If there is something I could help you with, I would be more than willing as you are always there for me and everyone else.

Regards,
Dave

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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by Neil Wilson » June 2nd, 2021, 6:32 am

dlevy wrote:
June 1st, 2021, 9:19 pm
Hi Neil,

I only made all new cross members 1-6.

The floor side members (AA-88091), Angle supports (AA-88061), the reinforcements and stake pockets on cross member #6 are all original.

It took me a while to get to this point, I would not be able to put a number on the hours.

I don't know if I am ready to build another 88-A, but I could supply any or all of the cross members. They are straight forward for me to make at this point.

If there is something I could help you with, I would be more than willing as you are always there for me and everyone else.

Regards,
Dave
Thanks Dave,
I am not looking for any platform parts currently. I would think that the #6 (rear cross member) is a part many could use. This cross member is frequently in poor condition. So, anyone looking could contact you.
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » June 7th, 2021, 1:37 pm

Thanks Neil.

If anyone is interested, I do have #6 cross members available.

2 of them are made to the exact original dimensions except the top flange is 1/2" short.
I only have 1 inner shelf for these ($275 with the shelf, $250 without the shelf)

1 of them, a couple of the holes are off by 0.0625" (1/16") and the corner flanges are too long. ($125)

I can make more of the #6 cross members with the shelf, but without any of the above issues for $425.

Dave
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » June 16th, 2021, 7:27 pm

Hi,

Quick rivet question. Could someone please check their original 88-A platform and make sure I have formed the correct rivet heads.

This is the front right corner.

I know based on an original that all the round head rivets in the AA-88074 "floor corner reinforcement" are correct, but I want to make sure that the single rivet for the side member (AA-88091) to the cross member #1 is supposed to be a waffle pattern as shown.

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by AAholic » June 20th, 2021, 3:03 pm

Here's a shot of an original, that is some beautiful work you're doing!
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Re: 88-A Platform Bed Questions

Post by dlevy » June 20th, 2021, 6:48 pm

Thank you for your comments!

Exactly what I needed to know.

Regards,
Dave

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