Small update with some pics.

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Stakebed
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Small update with some pics.

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Well going to tackle the front axle, steering,brakes, whatever else is attached to it lol. Just pulled it off the truck today. probably going to work on getting the hubs freed up first so i can remove them and see what the brakes look like. So far things look ok as theres tons of freshish looking grease all over the spindle nuts and in the bearings.

Any tips on removing/freeing up stuck brakes?

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(those are the ones that are liek modern day center caps that slip thru the backside of the rim)

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im not sure what kinda spring the front was, its not very wide and was told it was the car leaf spring. (count the holes and tell me how many leaf's there are?)

and just a fun pic of it all loaded up
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(both those rims are bad unfortunately)
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The front spring is an AA part - AA-3510. It is a 12 leave spring and all leaves are unique to the AA except the #12 (top) leaf which is the same as the #10 (top) leaf on the A spring.
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ahh ok thanks!

i got one drum off and the other is loose
here is what i saw when i removed it
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not to bad if i say so myself :mrgreen:
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28,early 29 front axel with "A" breaks. Looks just like my early 28 with wire wheels held on by the acorn lug nuts.All my lug bolts are right hand thread, L & R. Something I don't have enough of.---bert, fl.
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All '28/'29 AA's had A sized front brake shoes. All AA's had only right hand lug nuts until mid February '29. Until late '28, the AA wheel nuts had a 15/16" hex and looked like a top hat. The first design was taller and a shorter second design started in mid '28. The first acorn nuts (starting in late '28) did not have an "R" marking and had a shorter hex than later nuts with "R" and "L".

Many '28 AA's were converted in '29 to the larger '29 front spindles. The conversion required the use of the "R" and "L" wheel nuts.
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mine had left and right hand threads. had 2 different type of lugnuts too, they looked liek the silver ones in the above pic...

so all the brake stuff on my brakes is the same as the cars? if it is thats good to know.
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The front backing plates and all brake parts attached to them are the same as the A.
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Cool, will come in handy especially for shoes :mrgreen:

i do have a question: now you said the front spring itself is AA specific but are the shackles?(i assume but id rather ask as this is the first AA(and A) ive ever done/touched...

Also what about the spindles and kingpins? Are they the same as the A's? Are the bearings?
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1928 and 1929 AA Front End Part Identification

For 1928 and 1929, the AA front end was largely an assembly of A parts. Those parts which were AA specific are listed below.

AA Front End Parts (prior to February 15th 1929)

(2) AA-1105 – Front hub and brake drum assembly (all right hand threaded wheel bolts)
(20) A-21922 – Wheel hub bolt nuts (all right hand thread for front and rear)
(2) AA-3032 – Front spring perch
(2) AA-3122 – Spindle bolt locking pin
(1) AA-3281 – Spindle connecting rod tube
(1) AA-5310 – Front spring assembly (12 leaf with each leaf being an AA part except leaf #12 = A spring leaf #10)
(2) AA-5330 – Front spring clamp
(2) AA-5455 – Front spring clip

AA Front End Parts (starting February 15th 1929 through December 1929)

(1) AA-1102 – Front hub and brake drum assembly (RH)
(1) AA-1103 – Front hub and brake drum assembly (LH)
(10) AA-1120 – Wheel bolt nut (RH)
(10) AA-1121 – Wheel bolt nut (LH)
(2) AA-1190 – Front hub dust cap
(2) AA-1195 – Front hub grease retainer washer
(2) AA-1197 – Front wheel outer bearing grease retainer
(2) AA-1201 – Front wheel inner bearing cone assembly
(2) AA-1202 – Front wheel inner bearing cup
(2) AA-1216 – Front wheel outer bearing cone assembly
(2) AA-1217 – Front wheel outer bearing cup
(2) AA-3030 – Front spring perch
(2) AA-3105 – Spindle assembly
(2) AA-3122 – Spindle bolt locking pin
(1) AA-3281 – Spindle connecting rod tube
(1) AA-5310 – Front spring assembly (12 leaf with each leaf being an AA part except leaf #12 = A spring leaf #10)
(2) AA-5330 – Front spring clamp
(2) AA-5455-B – Front spring clip
(1) AA-5458 – Front spring clip bar

AA-3105 Spindle Changeover (2/15/29)

AA trucks used A-3105 spindles and corresponding bearings through February 15th 1929. In April 1929, Ford did a recall to change all AA’s with the A-3105 spindles to the newer AA-3105 spindles. The new AA-3105 spindles may have started as early as Nov. 1st 1928.

Ford Indianapolis Service Letters (references):

April 10, 1929 – AA-3105 Spindle Bodies – indicates that AA trucks built previous to Nov. 1st 1928 were equipped with A spindles and bearings and are to be swapped out with the heaver AA-3105 spindles and bearings.

July 24, 1929 – Front Spindle Changeover on Trucks - indicates that the spindles are to be changed out on all AA’s built prior to Feb. 15th.

October 18, 1929 – AA-3105 Spindle Changeovers – indicates that this changeover is for all AA trucks which were delivered up to February 15th 1929. If the AA has the former type spindle bodies, then the changeover should be made.

April 22, 1930 – AA-3105-AR Spindle Body – indicates that the gratis replacement was now cancelled.
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Neil,
I have a set of spindles and king pins that i took off a hulk AA truck. I cant find any parts # but the pins are marked "FORD" and BB.........can you tell me anything about them?

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well the model BB's were the AA's that were past 31... (much like the model B)
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