Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
Im looking for early 1928 engine splash pan bolts that are crossed drilled for cotter pins I would like to buy a set if anyone has any for sale. If not I would like to buy , rent ,barrow a bolt and nut . I have found a machine shop that will reproduce them for me. Please let me know. Willing to pay $$$$$ Thanks Billy
- Neil Wilson
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
I was looking at my April 1929 AA. It still has the engine splash aprons with the original mounting hardware (bolts, nuts, and cotters). So, it must be this combination was used into 1929.
Is there a difference in the bolt design for early 1928? Anyone know.
Is there a difference in the bolt design for early 1928? Anyone know.
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
Here is a link to a post I made on Fordbarn regarding the splash pan bolts that were still on my May 29, it may shed some light on the subject.
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthrea ... +pan+bolts
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthrea ... +pan+bolts
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
Billy
I have the pair that came off my truck and I do not wish to use them.
I remember some of the holes are ripped.
The need a good cleaning and you are welcome to them.
Let me know if you want them.
Marty
I have the pair that came off my truck and I do not wish to use them.
I remember some of the holes are ripped.
The need a good cleaning and you are welcome to them.
Let me know if you want them.
Marty
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
I think he wants the bolts.captain marty wrote:Billy
I have the pair that came off my truck and I do not wish to use them.
I remember some of the holes are ripped.
The need a good cleaning and you are welcome to them.
Let me know if you want them.
Marty
Do your aprons fit late '30 or '31's?
I could use a pair..
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
My aprons came of my early 28
Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
Thank you for all your help, I am actually looking for the bolts and nuts. I will even buy 1 if someone has one Thanks Billy
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
Can someone posts pics of these bolts and nuts with a ruler so I know exactly what is wanted? I have some buckets of bolts I am gonna get after in a few weeks...chief5215 wrote:Thank you for all your help, I am actually looking for the bolts and nuts. I will even buy 1 if someone has one Thanks Billy
Or drawings...
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
Re: Engine pan bolt help
(A6775/6776) ENGINE PAN - BOLTS/NUTS
{J.S.’11}:
● (x-m’29): bolts drilled for cotter pin
● (m’29-m’31): bolts not drilled, unfinished lock washers
*A20553 Engine pan to frame bolt (cross drilled for cotter): 1/4”-28 x 9/16” (fillister head screw) …{plain}
*A21666 Engine pan to frame bolt (thick head, square) … slight chamfer on top face of nutt: 1/4”-20 (3/16”t x 1/2”) …{plain}
*A23515 Engine pan to frame bolt cotter: 1/16” x 1/2” …{plain}
(A6775/6776) ENGINE PAN - BOLTS/NUTS
{J.S.’11}:
● (x-m’29): bolts drilled for cotter pin
● (m’29-m’31): bolts not drilled, unfinished lock washers
*A20553 Engine pan to frame bolt (cross drilled for cotter): 1/4”-28 x 9/16” (fillister head screw) …{plain}
*A21666 Engine pan to frame bolt (thick head, square) … slight chamfer on top face of nutt: 1/4”-20 (3/16”t x 1/2”) …{plain}
*A23515 Engine pan to frame bolt cotter: 1/16” x 1/2” …{plain}
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Re: Early 28 splash engine pan bolts
SOME INFORMATION ON ENGINE PAN MOUNTING HARDWARE
January 1, 1928 Price List of Part lists the following hardware for installing the engine splash shields:
A-20553 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. x 9/16 sq. hd. bolt (w/ hole) - most likely wrong (should be 1/2" hex. head)
A-21666 - 1/4-20 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut - must be wrong (should be 1/4-28)
A-23515 - 1/16 x 1/2 cotter pin
June 15, 1930 Price List of Part lists the following hardware for installing the engine splash shields:
A-20534-S1 - 1/4-28 x 1/2 hex. head bolt
A-21666 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut
A-22150-S1 - 1/4 (3/64 x 29/64) lock washer
April 1929 AA1356549 has:
A-20553 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. x 1/2 hex. hd. bolt (w/cotter hole)
A-21666 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut
A-23515 - 1/16 x 1/2 cotter pin
My conclusions:
The few original engine pan bolts/nuts that I have seen are fine threaded (1/4-28). The Judging Standards states that 1/4-28 hex. head bolts were used. I believe that bolt A-20553 should be a 1/2" hex. head as found on my April 1929 AA1356549. I believe that nut A-21666 should be 1/4-28 as shown in the June 15, 1930 Price List of Part. So, the 1928 thru mid 1929 engine pan hardware should be:
A-20553 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. x 1/2 hex. hd. bolt (w/cotter hole)
A-21666 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut
A-23515 - 1/16 x 1/2 cotter pin
The bolt and nut shown above have course threads. I don't think that this is for the engine pan.
January 1, 1928 Price List of Part lists the following hardware for installing the engine splash shields:
A-20553 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. x 9/16 sq. hd. bolt (w/ hole) - most likely wrong (should be 1/2" hex. head)
A-21666 - 1/4-20 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut - must be wrong (should be 1/4-28)
A-23515 - 1/16 x 1/2 cotter pin
June 15, 1930 Price List of Part lists the following hardware for installing the engine splash shields:
A-20534-S1 - 1/4-28 x 1/2 hex. head bolt
A-21666 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut
A-22150-S1 - 1/4 (3/64 x 29/64) lock washer
April 1929 AA1356549 has:
A-20553 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. x 1/2 hex. hd. bolt (w/cotter hole)
A-21666 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut
A-23515 - 1/16 x 1/2 cotter pin
My conclusions:
The few original engine pan bolts/nuts that I have seen are fine threaded (1/4-28). The Judging Standards states that 1/4-28 hex. head bolts were used. I believe that bolt A-20553 should be a 1/2" hex. head as found on my April 1929 AA1356549. I believe that nut A-21666 should be 1/4-28 as shown in the June 15, 1930 Price List of Part. So, the 1928 thru mid 1929 engine pan hardware should be:
A-20553 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. x 1/2 hex. hd. bolt (w/cotter hole)
A-21666 - 1/4-28 S.A.E. (3/16 x 1/2) sq. nut
A-23515 - 1/16 x 1/2 cotter pin
The bolt and nut shown above have course threads. I don't think that this is for the engine pan.
Regards, Neil Wilson
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