Help with ID
Help with ID
Hi, I'm fourteen and am looking for help to identify my Grandfather's Model A truck. It has been in the family before World War 2 and now he said I could have it. It was running when he put it in a shed about 25 years ago but being a farm truck it will need some work to put it back the way I would like to see it. I've been reading the Forum and I believe I've gotten the right numbers off the engine. Could someone please see if they can tell me any information from them. Also any books that you would recommend I should get to help with this project would be greatly appreciated. AA1826250
under that was A2732811 Thanks Again!
under that was A2732811 Thanks Again!
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Re: Help with ID
This is what I found about the numbers that you provided.
AA1826250 = June 1929
A2732811 = December 1929
This is a link to where I found the info.
http://www.mafca.com/eng-prod.html
I'm not sure why there would be two numbers on the engine block. Maybe I am missing something.
John
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AA1826250 = June 1929
A2732811 = December 1929
This is a link to where I found the info.
http://www.mafca.com/eng-prod.html
I'm not sure why there would be two numbers on the engine block. Maybe I am missing something.
John
NNY
- maacobob
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Re: Help with ID
fourteen years old aaah
fourteen years old
keep up the good work, ask a lot of questions
fourteen years old
keep up the good work, ask a lot of questions
- Chris Haynes
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Re: Help with ID
AA1826250 under that was A2732811
Hmmmn. I think we need photographs here.
AA1826250 is a Model AA truck built during June 1929.
A2732811 is a Model A car built during December 1929.
If both numbers are on the same pad on the block you most likely have a December, '29 A engine that was transplanted into the AA and the AA engine number added to it.
Pictures, pictures, pictures of everything please.
Hmmmn. I think we need photographs here.
AA1826250 is a Model AA truck built during June 1929.
A2732811 is a Model A car built during December 1929.
If both numbers are on the same pad on the block you most likely have a December, '29 A engine that was transplanted into the AA and the AA engine number added to it.
Pictures, pictures, pictures of everything please.
Re: Help with ID
I got lots of pictures, I tried to take them of everything+angle I could think of. I will try to get some better ones of the #, but I will post them anyway. You will have to excuse the paint job. It was in a few parades as the Old Gray Mare. They put an off-centered wheel on it so it would limp and cut up the fendors. Before this, my grandpa "modifided" it. It is also in a shed that probably will fall down. It also looks like they braced the shed on it.
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Re: Help with ID
Youngone:
Sounds like you've got a cool ol/ truck! You might want to keep it just the way it is for parades and the like. There are a lot of other AA's out there that you can get to restore. Have a blast with your truck, no matter what you decide to do with it.
Aahoogah!
-- Drew
Sounds like you've got a cool ol/ truck! You might want to keep it just the way it is for parades and the like. There are a lot of other AA's out there that you can get to restore. Have a blast with your truck, no matter what you decide to do with it.
Aahoogah!
-- Drew
Drew Mashburn
Re: Help with ID
News- the top # has been scratched out. Does that mean it"s a Dec. 29?
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Youngone:
Not necessarily. Any chance that you can post some photos of the numbers? Are the numbers on the engine block or on the top of the left-side frame rail?
-- Drew
Not necessarily. Any chance that you can post some photos of the numbers? Are the numbers on the engine block or on the top of the left-side frame rail?
-- Drew
Drew Mashburn
Re: Help with ID
Grandpa said he replaced engine head. Does this change the year? He also said that it is a grain truck. He bought a dumptruck for $25 to replace the transmission connecting drive gear. He also has a new distrubter, cap and rotor for it. When did the 1930 models come out. (I have 5 opening dish wheel duelies) Drew- the #s are on the engine block. I got lots of pics, but my mom is having trouble posting them. any help would be appriciated.
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The 1930 trucks came out in Jan 1930 and would have been the first trucks to have the 5 hole wheel and dual rears. The cab style did not change until June 1930. The ones built prior to June would have had the 29 style cab.
The question is whether the engine number matches the frame number. Over the years most have had at least one engine change and more often than not the numbers on the engine are not correct.
The question is whether the engine number matches the frame number. Over the years most have had at least one engine change and more often than not the numbers on the engine are not correct.
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How do we check the frame #. We have been told it is located on the top rail of the frame on the driver's side under the cab. Is this the right location? If not, any info would be helpful.
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The double A # was the # marked out. It was on top of the single A #.
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Re: Help with ID
Hello Youngone I have a late '30-'31 if you are confussed over the serial #'s try this My engine does not have a serial and my AA frame does not have a serial # I've looked from the steering box to a foot behind the crossmember and on the crossmember but no #'s. my frame is not rusted or pitted. I can see the scratch marks where the frame was press formed. Happy "AA"ing
- Chris Haynes
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Shelby,
You have to remove the cab and splash apron to see the frame number.
You have to remove the cab and splash apron to see the frame number.
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Re: Help with ID
It was common practice back in the day to rebuild a Model A engine and then restamp it to match the car or truck it was going in to. I have seen this myself. Recall that the engine number was on the title and when a person put in a rebuilt they needed it to match their title. So the machinist scratched out the "old" number and put the one from the title on it.
I would venture that the AA engine was taken to the rebuilders. AA’s saw hard service and were frequently rebuilt. Then they rebuilt it and sold it to a Model A owner. Since then, some one may have taken that engine and put it in your truck. That’s my opinion, of course, but explains the sequence of numbers.
Do you have the title?
(By the way, I bought my first truck when I was 15.)
Truck Man
I would venture that the AA engine was taken to the rebuilders. AA’s saw hard service and were frequently rebuilt. Then they rebuilt it and sold it to a Model A owner. Since then, some one may have taken that engine and put it in your truck. That’s my opinion, of course, but explains the sequence of numbers.
Do you have the title?
(By the way, I bought my first truck when I was 15.)
Truck Man
TruckMan