Driveshaft bearing
Driveshaft bearing
My 29 did not come with a front drive shaft bearing or any speedometer components. Apparently, it was operated this way for may years. Piecing together forum threads, my understanding is that from back to front there is a split ring, then a grease seal facing forward, and the roller bearing. Is this correct and does the roller bearing go in a sleeve? I see these components are readily available for A's, are these A and AA components interchangeable?
Lastly, am I correct in assuming the speedometer components are not critical for driveshaft operation?
Thanks for your help.
Lastly, am I correct in assuming the speedometer components are not critical for driveshaft operation?
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
This was posted by another member.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
I am quite sure you do not need the speedometer components. Mine is not hooked up. All it dose is turn the flex shaft going to the speedometer.Lastly, am I correct in assuming the speedometer components are not critical for driveshaft operation?
Thanks for your help.
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Reason: fix quotes
Reason: fix quotes
KVO
Dec. '28 AA
Dec. '28 AA
Re: Driveshaft bearing
Thanks guys, looks like I need to find some parts but at least not the speedo parts. Hopefully, there will be a lot less banging with the roller bearing installed.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
FYI - It is quite obvious that the speedometer drive gear and speedometer drive gear retainer must be installed. If not installed, then the roller bearing is not held in place and can/will move forward out of the sleeve and be destroyed.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
So, a spacer to hold the bearing in the proper place at the least. A bushing.Neil Wilson wrote: ↑May 9th, 2018, 5:20 pmFYI - It is quite obvious that the speedometer drive gear and speedometer drive gear retainer must be installed. If not installed, then the roller bearing is not held in place and can/will move forward out of the sleeve and be destroyed.
KVO
Dec. '28 AA
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
I guess a spacer which is splined for the drive shaft would work. It seems like a spacer is more work that finding the gear.KimVanOrder wrote: ↑May 10th, 2018, 4:10 pmSo, a spacer to hold the bearing in the proper place at the least. A bushing.
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Neil: As always , you correct. But I used to be a machinist so I always lean that way. Make one vs buy one. Even if it doesn't make $ and Cents. It's all about the entertainment.Neil Wilson wrote: ↑May 11th, 2018, 8:43 amI guess a spacer which is splined for the drive shaft would work. It seems like a spacer is more work that finding the gear.KimVanOrder wrote: ↑May 10th, 2018, 4:10 pmSo, a spacer to hold the bearing in the proper place at the least. A bushing.
Thanks again and keep up the great work..
KVO
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
Thanks for the feedback and sorry for the delayed response. I've been searching for the bearing and bearing sleeve through the normal vendors, Brattons, Berts, etc. with no success. Is there a source a for these parts somewhere? I'll post a LTB for the speedo gear.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
I got the bearing and sleeve from Little Dearborn. Another possibility is Fred at southside obsolete http://www.southsideobsolete.com/Souths ... lcome.html or Mike at Third Gen Automotive (844) 327-5988. Mike goes by 35fordtn on Ford Barn.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
Bob,
I just called Terry at Little Dearborn (They have since downsized and moved) and he said they no longer have their stock of AA parts. He recommended the guy who bought many of them (Chuck's Trucks 203-288-2769)
If I am not mistaken, I believe those same bearings, seals, and race are used in the hi-lo if you have a spare doner one of those.
Neil, didn't we go through the need for the snap ring a few years ago and determine that it was only necessary for the axles coming down to the assembly line because they let the driveshaft input hang down?
Just trying to help.
Dave
I just called Terry at Little Dearborn (They have since downsized and moved) and he said they no longer have their stock of AA parts. He recommended the guy who bought many of them (Chuck's Trucks 203-288-2769)
If I am not mistaken, I believe those same bearings, seals, and race are used in the hi-lo if you have a spare doner one of those.
Neil, didn't we go through the need for the snap ring a few years ago and determine that it was only necessary for the axles coming down to the assembly line because they let the driveshaft input hang down?
Just trying to help.
Dave
Re: Driveshaft bearing
Thanks for the leads. The quest continues.
Re: Driveshaft bearing
Having found the needed bearing assembly (thanks AAholic, great parts) I was dry fitting everything together only to find my replacement driveshaft front spline dimensions differ from the original so my u-joint doesn't fit. The original has an inside spline diameter of 15/16" and the replacement 1-1/32". Am I correct in assuming that if I find a u-joint that fits the new driveshaft that I'll encounter the same issue with the front driveshaft spline dimensions or by chance was the front shaft spline configuration universal? If a different u-joint won't solve the problem has anyone tried to re-machine the grooves deeper on the driveshaft or is that more work/costly that it's worth? I may try and somehow remove the rear coupler from the original driveshaft that someone booger welded on. Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
The driveshaft should be 1 1/4" 10 spline.
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Re: Driveshaft bearing
If you check the August 1929 Service Bulletins, it describes the spline change on the driveshaft and the different u-joint that is needed. The new splines are shallower than the old splines and are squared at the bottom of the grooves instead of being rounded. The old style driveshafts can be used with the new u-joint but the new style driveshafts cannot be used with the old style u-joints.
Keith
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